ACCOUNTS comparative reports order of columns

Hello ACCOUNTS advisors. Recently two users have asked that in comparative reports, like Reports -> Summary -> Income Statement Yr/Yr Comparison, and Reports -> Summary -> Balance Sheet Comparison, the most recent year or date should be on the left, and the earlier date on the right. Apparently this would be in conformance with accounting standards. Currently ACCOUNTS does it the other way around, with the earlier year on the left.

I have checked a few other bookkeeping programs. Quicken does it like ACCOUNTS does, whereas QuickBooks and Sage 50 / Peachtree do it like those two users are asking for.

So my question is, should we change it? Would it unduly confuse you or the readers of the financial statements you put out for your organization?

Of course another option is to give users of ACCOUNTS a choice about this (perhaps defaulting to the accounting standards way) but that is just another complication, and you probably all realize we have a strong “keep it simple” philosophy (where possible, or course).

Your thoughts? You can add Comments to this blog post, or just email us back directly. Thank you.

ACCOUNTS Online Banking Transaction Downloads

Hello ACCOUNTS beta testers. We finally have a pre-test version available which includes importing downloads of transactions from your online banking. You can import transactions downloaded from standard bank accounts (generally chequing or savings accounts) and also from credit card accounts.

Importing downloaded online banking transactions can do one or both of two things: match to existing manually-entered transactions (or ones entered as recurring transactions) in ACCOUNTS, or create new transactions in ACCOUNTS based on the imported transactions that didn’t match existing ones. So the two purposes for doing that importing would be for a sort of pre-bank reconciliation (for the manually-entered transactions) or to do some of your data entry of transactions for you, or a combination of the two.

We invite you to try out this feature to see how it works for you, and make sure that our fairly extensive testing hasn’t missed anything that comes up when real users are using it! Because it’s a fairly complex feature, I’d encourage you to start by reading the Help on it (“Importing Online Banking Downloads”) before you try using it.

Also, just in case anything goes wrong, I would recommend that you make a database backup immediately before importing an online banking download, and use Database -> Validation Transactions immediately after you are finished, to make sure nothing went wrong. (If anything shows up in that validation, you can then restore your backup.)

If you encounter any unexpected or technical error messages, please be sure to send us screen shots, and as much description as you can of exactly what you were doing before it happened. (We may also ask you to share a database backup, and copy of the file you were importing, so we can try the same thing, if you are willing.)

You can take a screen-shot of any single message box or window by pressing Alt+PrtSc (or on some laptops, Fn+Alt+PrtSc). Having done that (which doesn’t visibly do anything), you can then paste that directly into an email with Ctrl+V or the Edit -> Paste menu option in your email program, or if that doesn’t work, into a Word or Paint document. Please be sure to use Alt with PrtSc, so it doesn’t take a screenshot of your whole Windows screen, and also please do NOT send camera photos – both of those alternatives are generally huge, and much harder to read.

You can get the beta test version with this new feature from the Pretest page at What is there will only work if you already have at least release number 2.10, which you can check with Help -> About DONATION. If you have an earlier release, please first upgrade with Tools -> Check for Updates, and then you can take the beta test version from the Pretest page.

Please let us know how your testing goes, and any comments or suggestions you have. You can email us directly, or leave Comments on this blog post.

Thank you so much!

Accounting Consultants for ACCOUNTS

Hello again ACCOUNTS advisors.

As you may have experienced, sometimes users of ACCOUNTS have accounting or bookkeeping questions that are not about how to use the program, but rather about how best to set up an appropriate chart of accounts for their organization, or what transactions to do. Our staff may not be willing or able to answer such questions, because we are not accountants.

In such cases, we advise users to consult their organization’s accountant or a skilled bookkeeper.

For organizations with no access to such a person, however, we have started a Consultants page on our website, with one initial listing, at

If you are an accountant or skilled bookkeeper, with a good understanding of the ACCOUNTS program and its fund accounting concepts, and wish to be added to that list, please contact us directly by email (not by commenting on this post), at

Thank you.

Online Banking Transactions – Samples Needed

Sorry to write again so soon, but I just realized I need more samples – particularly from American banks. If any of you could go to your online banking, and request a download to QuickBooks (if that’s an option), save the file, and email it to us, that would be great. If your bank doesn’t support downloads to QuickBooks, but does to Quicken, that would be fine too. And if doesn’t support either, please at least tell us what downloads it does support.

The downloaded files are actually plain text files, so if you want to first open them up in an editor (like Notepad) and make sure there’s nothing confidential you want to change, that would be fine.

In particular if you do a credit card statement download, your card # is in the file, in a section that may look like this:


For bank accounts, your account number may be in it, in the format:


I changed confidential parts in the samples above to x’s. Stuff might be on separate lines, as in the 2nd example, or all on one line, as in the first example.

From Canadian banks, I already samples from have one credit union, a few online-only banks, and out of the big 5, I have TD, CIBC, RBC and BMO. If someone has Scotiabank, I would appreciate a sample. No further samples from the others are needed.

I don’t have any US bank samples yet, so anything you have would be great – please tell us what bank it is from when you send it.

Thanks so much in advance.

Importing and Matching Online Banking Transactions

Hi ACCOUNTS advisors and beta testers. We are starting to think about the possibility of adding importing of transactions downloaded from your online banking into ACCOUNTS. That would include matching to manually-entered transactions where possible (which is very complicated to figure out how to do properly) and adding new transactions. There would presumably have to be some options for manual matching as well. Though we will want to keep this as simple as possible …

Our question for you at this point, is, does your online banking that you use support downloading for Quicken, QuickBooks, or both? There may be other download format options, but I’d only want to know about them if your system didn’t support either Quicken or QuickBooks.

There may be another blog with more questions about this later. At this point our thinking about it is very preliminary, and there is no schedule for when the feature might be completed.

Thank you.

Opinions on New Software4Nonprofits Home Page

First of all, my apologies to any of you who get both of our blogs (for DONATION and ACCOUNTS) – you will be getting this post a 2nd time.

We have updated the home page to include new sections with an overview of the pricing for each version for each of our two programs, and an overview of the differences between each version.

We’re interested in your thoughts on the changes, and our specific wording.

It was tricky to do this, because we don’t want to say too much (people won’t read it) but also don’t want to say too little so that it will be misleading. Each new section has links at the bottom for further details.

Thank you in advance for any reactions, which you can send as comments to the blog, or just by direct email replies.

Bug in Hidden Accounts appearing in Drop-Down Lists

Hello ACCOUNTS blog readers.

I think I have discovered a bug, but I want to run it by you all before I change it. It has to do with the fact that it appears that hidden accounts are appearing on drop-down lists of accounts you can use in transactions, when they shouldn’t.

The one time that I believe hidden accounts should appear in drop-downs, is if you are editing an existing transaction, that already used that hidden account. Otherwise you wouldn’t be able to see that already-used account.

The time that it seems the program is displaying them anyways, when it shouldn’t, is when it’s a new transaction being edited (one you haven’t saved yet), but the main account you are working on (say, a bank account you are in the register window for) has ever in the past had some transaction that included that hidden account.

I can’t really see why I originally decided to program it that way, and now it appears to me that it is just annoying – you will always see hidden accounts in the drop-down account lists of a register window that ever had a transaction using that account.

The whole point, in my mind, of hidden accounts, is “this is an account I used to use, but don’t any more”. So I don’t want to see it, merely because I used it in the past in this same register!

The same probably applies to entering transactions in other windows like Write Cheques etc. – the wrong behaviour would apply if any past transaction on the bank account you were writing cheques for ever used that hidden account.

Does this make sense to you, that I should remove that behaviour, so the only time a hidden account is shown is when you are editing an existing transaction that already used it? Of course, if you need to use it again in a new transaction, for some reason, you can always go to the Chart of Accounts window, edit the account, and un-hide it.

As always, you can reply by adding a Comment on this blog post, or by direct email. Thank you.

By the way, out of interest, the way I ran into this bug was that I was doing what programmers call “eating your own dog food”, namely actually using the program in production for a real organization (a non-profit I’m involved with as Treasurer). I had some accounts that were used early last year, but that we stopped using, but they kept coming up when entering new transactions and it was annoying!

Custom Reports Ready for Testing

Hello ACCOUNTS beta testers. We have finally finished the Custom Reports feature, that I wrote to you earlier about (at

This is a pretty major feature, and the programming was pretty complex, so we would really appreciate it if as many of you as possible could give it a try and let us know what you think – especially if you run into any problems with it, incorrect results etc.!

As mentioned in that previous post, with Custom Reports you can specify a report of up to 4 columns, each of which is Income and Expenses, Budget, or a Difference between two previous columns. Each column has its own date range, either specified explicitly by you, or with a named range like “Last Month”, “Year to Date” etc., that will be recalculated every time you use the report (if you Memorize it).

You also get to specify the heading for each column in the report, the report’s title, whether it is for all funds combined or split out by fund, and the level of accounts to include (top-level etc.).

You get the beta test (pre-test) version 1.42 Beta1, that includes Custom Reports (on the Reports menu of course) from

Be sure to click the Help button on the new Custom Reports window to learn all about it – though if you want to try without that, to see how self-explanatory it seems, that would be fine too!

Please reply with any testing results either with a regular Comment on this blog, or by direct email. Thank you!

Fund Income Statements by Months/Quarters

Hello ACCOUNTS beta testers and advisors.

First, can I ask again for any feedback on my recent previous post,, about the design of the new Custom Reporting feature for ACCOUNTS? We’d really like to be sure we’re on the right track, and haven’t missed anything crucial, before completing the first version of that feature.

This post though is about some new reports and features of existing reports, that you can try out in version 1.41 Beta1, available from the page

The new reports are Reports ⇒ Fund ⇒ Income Statement by Months and Income Statement by Quarters, that are like the same-named Reports ⇒ Summary reports, except split out by fund, with a summary section showing the change in fund balances for the entire reporting period. This is something some users had been asking for.

The improvement is that Reports ⇒ Summary ⇒ Income Statement by Months and Income Statement by Quarters both now also prompt for an “Include” setting to determine the levels of accounts and sub-accounts to be included in the report, like many other reports do, but those ones didn’t.

If you could give that a try and let us know what you think, especially including any problems you observe with those reports, it would be much appreciated. As always, you can reply with a comment on the blog, or by replying directly by email.

ACCOUNTS Custom Reporting

While we aren’t anywhere near done, we are working towards a Custom Reports option for ACCOUNTS. A draft of the window for specifying them, with a sample filled-in, looks like:

Draft ACCOUNTS Custom Reports window

As you can see, it can have from one to four columns of data in the report. Each report can be a Budget for a given date range, Income and Expenses for a given date range, or a Difference between the two previous columns. Differences must be between two Budget columns, two Income and Expenses columns, or one of each.

The report can be for all funds combined (like the existing reports under Reports -> Summary) or split out by fund (like the existing reports under Reports -> Fund).

As with many existing reports, you can set them to include All Levels of Account, Only Top-Level and Subaccounts, or Only Top-Level Accounts.

You also give it a Report Title.

The Date Ranges can be any of the following:

Last Month
Current Month to Date
Last Quarter
Current Quarter to Date
Year to Date
Year to Last Month End
Year to Last Quarter End
Last Year
Last Year to Date
Last Year to Last Month End
Last Year to Last Quarter End
Custom Date Range

The actual dates included in all of those are calculated for you, except for Custom Date Range, where you type in the dates.

If you Memorize and then replay such a report, the date ranges are re-calculated based on the current date, again except for Custom Date Range which uses the actual memorized dates. (There will be an option to redisplay the memorized Custom Report in the window above, so you can change such dates.)

There are going to be various rules about what ranges of dates are allowed for different columns, including:

  • Budget columns must have their range of dates within one fiscal year.
  • When you are showing a Difference between a Budget column and an Income and Expenses column, either the two columns must be for the exact same date range, or if the Income and Expenses is for less than a year, the Budget can be for the whole year.
  • As in the current Budget reports, partial-year budgets are calculated as appropriate fractions of the entire year’s budget.

We would appreciate any thoughts and feedback you might have about this. Is there anything we have missed that your organization might realistically want, and that isn’t already in one of the built-in reports?

As always, you can reply directly by email, or by adding a Comment on this blog post. Thank you.